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Correspondence between two men who fell in love then fell apart

August 2018

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Subject: Progress pics
From: BRIT
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2018 06:35:32 +0100
To: YANK

I love transformations. I love the change, the before and after.

I want to see your growth. I want to see you swell up huge into the roided beast you were meant to be.

I want you to take a series of shots showing the change. Couple of poses once a month. Same poses each time. Making a visual log of your journey in beastliness.

And knowing how much those pics are going to turn me on is only going to turn you on more ;)

Subject: Re: Progress pics
From: YANK
Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2018 06:21:46 -0700
To: BRIT

Poppa,

I can do that. I *will* do that. And an occasional posing video clip too.

Finding steroids is always a challenge. Wish me luck.

ook ook,

BIG LUG

Subject: Free alternatives to Skype
From: YANK
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2018 09:18:26 -0700
To: BRIT

https://www.techradar.com/news/the-best-free-skype-alternatives

Perhaps Viber is worth a try. Also available as an Android app.

See also https://www.concise-courses.com/security/skype-alternatives/

Personally, I loved Yahoo Messenger's video chat. It was lightweight and no less reliable than Skype.

ook ook,

YOUR BIG LUG

Subject: Re: Progress pics
From: YANK
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2018 11:53:17 -0700
To: BRIT

Poppa,

I want progress pics of you as well. You're evolving. Hypnotist, leatherman, power Dom, musclebear... Worth documenting so you can see the physical manifestations of how you are changing inside. And worth sharing so I can stay a part of it.

ook ook.

Subject: Re: Progress pics
From: BRIT
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2018 22:59:10 +0100
To: YANK

I really should do that :)

Subject: Busy week
From: BRIT
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2018 23:01:21 +0100
To: YANK

Just to say this week has been a bit crazy - four evenings booked being social which is most unusual, and waking up at 4am Mon-Wed has drained me.

I have been taking your points on board but I have delayed starting your workout program, trying a new gym, and looking for leather things I like. I *will* do these things, they are not forgotten.

Brit

Subject: Re: Busy week
From: YANK
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2018 15:21:33 -0700
To: BRIT

Poppa,

Understood. My neurotransmitters are on an evil see-saw (teeter-totter?) so I know what you mean about feeling drained.

Enjoy the company of friends. Go on a date or two. You can fit gym time around a social life.

ook ook,

BIG LUG

Subject: Is Recon worth it?
From: YANK
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2018 15:28:18 -0700
To: BRIT

Brit,

I have only ever used the free, limited version of Recon.com on a web browser. Is a paid subscription worth the price? Does the smartphone app version have any worthwhile features the web version doesn't have?

Should I make a competing product for kink and fetish men? Having to pay to get useful features from an advertising-monetized web site always irks me.

ook ook,

BIG LUG

Subject: Updated my HypnosisForGuys profile
From: YANK
Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2018 18:18:32 -0700
To: BRIT

Poppa,

I updated my H4G profile. As soon as each new photo went up I got messages and mail. Content junkies.

ook ook,

BIG LUG

Subject: Planning for [Redacted] Leather Weekend - Enlarging tubes?
From: YANK
Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2018 18:29:12 -0700
To: BRIT

Brit,

Did you say you have cock enlarging tubes? If so, what size(s)?

ook ook.

Subject: Re: Is Recon worth it?
From: BRIT
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2018 06:10:30 +0100
To: YANK

I only use the free version, which lets me use the Android app. The only limit I know is profile views per-day.

In my position, that's fine as it's more a passive recruiting tool than me using it to hunt. Having the profile means I get s trickle of interest, some of which turns into play. There only being so much time in the day, that works out fine for me.

Brit

Subject: Re: Updated my HypnosisForGuys profile
From: BRIT
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2018 06:19:24 +0100
To: YANK

Heh. In fairness, discoverability is poor on the site, most just use the news feed which showed your picture going up. And your pictures, grrr.

I like the new profile, it is very clear and free from things that don't matter.

And, I'm glad you know I didn't need you to make some public declaration regarding us and how generally awesome my hypno powers are ;) I'm utterly secure about us and my public profile and want you to have as many amazing hypno experiences as possible!

Subject: Re: Updated my HypnosisForGuys profile
From: BRIT
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2018 07:13:36 +0100
To: YANK

Also zzmouse99 is the young guy I was talking about a few days ago who really interested me regarding BDSM things this year. He is into powerlifting now, bigger than his pics look. He might be available at the leather weekend too :D

Subject: A little motivational story
From: BRIT
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2018 07:22:08 +0100
To: YANK

Last night, my most regular subject came over (my boot boy). We have been doing bits for a while now. In our first session, we couldn't even get one post hypnotic effect to stick. But we kept at it, and he has been finding more and more things working. Last night he blacked out entirely for a chunk of a trance for the first time.

He's still not the subject who can do the most, but he has put the time and effort in and I'm finding it very rewarding to train him and see his mind developing.

It's going to happen with you.

Subject: Re: Is Recon worth it?
From: YANK
Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2018 06:54:23 -0700
To: BRIT

Thank you.

I had a 3 month subscription back in Providence. My Recon profile was a shortened version of my BigMuscle profile. I did meet the 2 young musclemen but that never ended up getting any traction.

I can't remember what I had for my [Redacted] profile, it wasn't up long before I gave up on free Recon's growing set of limitations.

ook ook,

BIG LUG

Subject: Re: A little motivational story
From: YANK
Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2018 06:57:39 -0700
To: BRIT

Poppa,

Thank you for the encouragement. I'm going to do my best to stick with my hypnosis training, online with you and in person whenever possible (because in-person happened oh so very frequently over the past 5 years). My mind will learn and adapt.

If it doesn't, I'll send you a bottle of chloroform and some greasy rags. You know what to do.

ook ook,

BIG LUG

Subject: Re: Updated my HypnosisForGuys profile
From: YANK
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2018 08:29:41 -0700
To: BRIT

Brit,

Good to know, it can start a conversation.

ook ook.

Subject: Someone like you
From: YANK
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2018 12:18:53 -0700
To: BRIT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQqFP658aHo

Kings of Leon - Use Somebody

Subject: Grey or red?
From: YANK
Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2018 17:54:57 -0700
To: BRIT

https://www.amazon.com/FEESHOW-Suspender-Singlet-Bodysuit-Underwear/dp/B01FWCOY HU/ref=sr_1_83

Poppa,

Grey or red? I dislike navy blue.

--BIG LUG

Subject: Re: Grey or red?
From: BRIT
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2018 05:24:14 +0100
To: YANK

You really don't seem a grey person to me!

Subject: Subject for practice
From: BRIT
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2018 07:20:45 +0100
To: YANK

I thought you *may* find https://hypnosisforguys.com/Tomwells interesting. He's a good subject but also very into leather, transformation and submission. If you were looking for people online to practice your skills with, he may be a good choice.

Subject: Re: Grey or red?
From: YANK
Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2018 05:55:49 -0700
To: BRIT

Poppa,

Yeah, I was thinking red too. But "jock grey" is a classic color, and it would show sweat so well.

Perhaps the answer is, as we say in New Mexico, "¿Por que no los dos?" (Why not both?)

--BIG LUG

Subject: Re: Subject for practice
From: YANK
Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2018 05:58:31 -0700
To: BRIT

Thank you, HypnoPimp, I'll check out his profile.

--Big Lug

Subject: Re: Subject for practice
From: BRIT
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2018 14:46:41 +0100
To: YANK

Heh I think aside from hypno you have notions around leather culture you want to propogate and he seems a good fit :)

Subject: Re: Subject for practice
From: YANK
Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2018 07:19:45 -0700
To: BRIT

The Old Guard must train the youngsters. History matters.

--LEATHER GREYBEARD

Subject: Is this bandanna "hypnosis-esque" enough"
From: YANK
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2018 08:25:53 -0700
To: BRIT

Poppa,

Hanging out of a back pocket would this bandanna convey a hypnosis kink well enough?

https://www.zazzle.co.uk/four_colour_spiral_abstract_art_bandana-256482436605925927

I found some art to make unequivocal hypnosis kink bandannas but this style appealed to me a bit.

--BIG LUG

Subject: Re: Is this bandanna "hypnosis-esque" enough"
From: BRIT
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2018 16:39:39 +0100
To: YANK

It does to me, the main issue is so few people see hypnosis as a kink at all, so can't grasp the connection.

Subject: Re: Is this bandanna "hypnosis-esque" enough"
From: YANK
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2018 09:18:57 -0700
To: BRIT

Poppa,

Understood. And the bandanna color code got so long and convoluted no one knew what the Hell anything meant anymore (more on that later, that was actually an intentional prank back in the late 80's).

Heavy-handed would be best. Swinging pocket watches, black-and-white spirals.

--BIG LUG

I designed this art and had Zazzle print it on a bandanna for the Brit.

Subject: Re: Free alternatives to Skype
From: BRIT
Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2018 19:21:31 +0100
To: YANK

So:

1) I have now installed Viber on my phone

2) I do have WhatsApp but it is owned by Facebook and they are about to start monetising it, two reasons to avoid. Still, a fallback at worst.

3) Everything else in that techradar article looked a bit dodgy.

4) I didn't feel like researching all the concose-courses ones once I saw them recommending Linux desktop-only apps (I have and like a Linux desktop, I just don't think the article is focussing on what *we* need).

Poppa Brit

Subject: Re: Progress pics
From: BRIT
Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2018 19:22:43 +0100
To: YANK

I shall do this, yes. Thank you :)

Subject: Re: Free alternatives to Skype
From: YANK
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2018 12:36:21 -0700
To: BRIT

Poppa,

I'll install Viner and we can test drive it.

--BIG LUG

Subject: I apologise for being so bare on Skype
From: YANK
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2018 13:13:14 -0700
To: BRIT

Brit,

I apologize for my intensity on Skype. It's not fair of me to burden you craziness of my own making. Whatever our connection becomes will be a result of what works for us both and what enriches both our lives.

I was selfish. I'm sorry.

--BIG LUG

Subject: Re: I apologise for being so bare on Skype
From: BRIT
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2018 21:22:39 +0100
To: YANK

Your honesty is not a burden. It's part of us connecting.

People who can't tell desires and expectations apart are the troublesome ones. That's not you :)

Subject: Re: I apologise for being so bare on Skype
From: YANK
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2018 13:33:11 -0700
To: BRIT

Brit,

Desire: Our lives enriched by all the things you can teach me, all the things I can teach you, and our partnership. And cats.

Expectation: This will take some work and some growing, as all worthwhile things do.

--BIG LUG

Speaking of growing, I decided to try to pack on as much muscle mass as possible before flying to the UK to see the Brit. I followed a mass building routine and trained heavy. I started taking anabolics that didn't need a prescription: insulin, HCG, and sermorelin. I increased my weekly prescription testosterone dose. I started getting BIG.

[8/4/2018 10:03:12 AM]

*** Call ended, duration 2:22:37 ***

BRIT: And off home

YANK: I listened to Blink's Basic Induction. Very good, I zoned out several times. I shall use it in my ongoing training.

YANK: I hope your night at the [Redacted] Leather Social was enjoyable and that you made some starts on new friendships. I'm going to take a nap now. Good night, Poppa.

BRIT: I actually looked at your text transcript of Blink's Basic Induction this morning for the first time.

It's so good, it keeps me humble and learning more.

I can listen to it all the way through (I have done) but it's so much more fun to let it work ??

BRIT: The leathermen social was not there ideal start but I'm OK with that. Can talk about it more on Skype.

[8/5/2018 12:28:30 AM]

YANK: Good morning, Poppa. Just got home from Gear Night. I had pumped my cock up big enough that my pouches wouldn't fit so I changed to urethane coated spandex codpiece pants. BIG bulge. Two greybeard Daddy bears were
working my nuts and stroking my cock, and I was 5 seconds from cumming when we were shot down by one of the event guys. Oh well. It was fun while it lasted.

YANK: I will truly enjoy when you and I get our hypnosis to the point that you can instruct me to cum and I blow my load while holding onto your big body, hands free.

YANK: All good things in time.

BRIT: You got out and had fun, which makes me happy ??

YANK: Makes me happy too.

BRIT: I keep meaning to ask you about you doing Kegel exercises. That has been on my mind as a way to start controlling your groin.

YANK: It was harder than I expected to command the moment, but I did OK. Someone bought me a drink, and a few guys were quite pushy trying to corner me and get a feel. I had decided I was going out for social practice so I wa sable to stay polite yet firm.

YANK: Kegelcises? You'll have to teach me. Your judgement on what I would respond to has been spot on so far so teach me what you think will get you deeper into my mind-body connection.

YANK: By the way, good use of post-hypnosis fractionation to solidify my arm. I really did get great pleasure from feeling my body respond to your control. Gave me a hard-on.

BRIT: Yeah, it wasn't the same as doing it in a bar as you had just come out and we had established our thing. But I think you see the principle. When I do it in a bar, the stuff about taking over the arm etc is all the same.

BRIT: I'm glad you're getting that practice in for socialising. It is a facade for most people, I am pretty sure. We all present.

YANK: I did not try anything tonight but I did mention I had some "hypnosis hangover" from recreational hypnosis with an online friend.

YANK: I allowed myself to enjoy the event for what it was. And I haven't been to a gay bar for about 6 months so I was out of practice.

YANK: But I stayed just over 3 hours so it was an accomplishment.

BRIT: There are many aspects to your training.

BRIT: It's not about a body is it? It's about the life you want.

YANK: Yes.

BRIT: Each of us. I decided to just take the three day split and do whatever in the gym today

BRIT: Chest and legs today.

YANK: And the identity I want, being who I know myself as.

YANK: Good. I'm glad you're going to the gym.

YANK: Took Benadryl for sleepy time, going out to set a plate of food for the Salvage Cats.

BRIT: Go do it.

YANK: Good night, Poppa. Have a good day being who you are.

YANK: Bye for now. ook ook.

BRIT: Sleep well. We'll speak tomorrow ??

BRIT: An introduction to Kegels https://www.gq.com/story/kegel-exercises-for-better-sex-men I suspect you have come across pelvic floor exercises before, making your cock jump etc. I've done them on and off for years, over time you can finesse your control over of plenty muscles around your cock. There are plenty of Kegel routines out there, but just doing anything is good. Importantly for us, the more conscious control you have down there, the more you can give to me ??

YANK: Kegel-riffic!

YANK: Most of the Kegel stuff you hear from gays is about tightening their asshole for power fucking. I do occasionally hear straight guys talk about pelvic floor exercises to prevent hernias from powerlifting.

YANK: And Futurama, of course.

BRIT: Always appropriate ??

BRIT: The stuff you see in mainstream articles is about urinary incontinence mostly. But it comes up for better orgasms too.

YANK: Better orgasms are good.

YANK: Baking a pie pan blueberry muffin to enjoy with my coffee.

BRIT: Very nice.

BRIT: The more control you have, the more I can have ??

YANK: I'd like to hear about your [Redacted] Leather Social adventure. You in a position for video today?

YANK: I shall give you control, Poppa. Oh, such control you shall have.

BRIT: I am in that position ??

YANK: Let me do a sound check. My headset deactivated my speakers so I need to be sure I can go back and forth.

YANK: One moment please.

YANK: Think I got iy...

Subject: Frozen/locked arm trick?
From: YANK
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2018 15:39:26 -0700
To: BRIT

Brit,

You said for fun at bars you can lock someone's arm extended without hypnotising him. Could you please teach me how you do that? I've seen videos for a couple ways but you're the only person I know who has firsthand knowledge.

ook ook,

YOUR BIG LUG

Subject: Re: Frozen/locked arm trick?
From: BRIT
Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2018 06:10:22 +0100
To: YANK

For me it's a combination of owning the moment and physical cues (stroking the arm).

It's not guaranteed to work (nothing we do is because of human variation). I'll show you on you when we meet next ;) it tends to work best on those open to suggestion and kinaesthetic minded people. I don't try on everyone.

The less obvious parts are how you set things up ... before your Gruntor experience, I talked about being pupped. That was a suggestion. That went in to your subconscious and gave it a context that allowed your experience go happen. I'm sneakier than it looks ;)

In the same way, hypnosis effectively starts as soon as you say "I am a hypnotist" as people often start churning over "will be do something to me" or "I wonder how that feels" given that knowledge. If you then start talking about freezing people's arms in bars, then you are seeding the suggestion to them.

I'm telling you this as I trust you ethically to not abuse people. All communication is manipulation, so in one sense it is impossible to avoid influencing people. But even so, as a hypnotist I limit what I say before gaining consent to the types of ethical persuasion people normally use. I won't use conversational tricks like politicians, sales people and pick up artists to get what I want. I will simply use temptation like someone who interests you at a bar.

With you, I felt fine seeding your Gruntor experience, not because "I know that was what you wanted" as that's the rationale abusers give. But because we had established consensual non-consent. At NEEHU I wasn't close to ready for it but you can see that since then while I have picked up new tricks for sure, the real change is in me.

The D/s stuff we did was you doing everything needed to control state, and you did it masterfully without hypnotic trance. You know inductions already. They are in the end only one part of what hypnotists do. You are better at this than you realise.

Subject: What do I jack off to?
From: YANK
Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2018 06:51:25 -0700
To: BRIT

Brit,

This guy has so many of the things I love:

MASS Brutish Fucked-up hair Unemployable facial tattoos Stretch marks Trope-ish jewelry Synthol

And *bad* synthol. His muscles are asymmetrical and unevenly shaped. He has "Must... Get... BIGGER!" written all over him.

You will help me with synthol to make sure my symmetry and muscle shape look good. I want my muscle SIZE to make people think I use synthol.

ook ook,

BIG LUG

Subject: Re: Frozen/locked arm trick?
From: YANK
Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2018 06:59:31 -0700
To: BRIT

Poppa,

Thank you. This is exactly the kind of mentoring that makes me want you in my life.

One reason I'm going to Gear Night is that I want to brush up my Dom skills, particularly my presence. And it's a good environment (noisy) to work on minimal talking. All part of owning the moment.

ook ook.

Subject: Re: Frozen/locked arm trick?
From: YANK
Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2018 10:34:25 -0700
To: BRIT

Poppa,

Thank you, the locked arm was a lot of fun. And thank you for showing me around your home.

ook ook,

BIG LUG

Subject: Re: Frozen/locked arm trick?
From: BRIT
Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2018 19:17:59 +0100
To: YANK

I think, given your experience and expertise in D/s, talking to you in a year about your model of hypnosis will be fascinating.

Subject: Re: Frozen/locked arm trick?
From: YANK
Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2018 14:08:24 -0700
To: BRIT

Poppa,

That was also, as far as I can remember, the first time you exerted muscle control on me. I'm optimistic about bondage, restraint, and making my cock hard when you demand it.

We'll see how my hypnosis style evolves. I hadn't considered how my D/s style hit so many hypnosis landmarks. Thank you for that insight.

ook ook,

BIG LUG

Subject: Because, if I read your clues right, this kind of man appeals to you
From: YANK
Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2018 14:52:56 -0700
To: BRIT

From the Tumblr "Musculos Roids y Osos" (Musclemen, Steroids, and Bears) at http://muscleryb.tumblr.com/

ook ook.

Subject: Re: Because, if I read your clues right, this kind of man appeals to you
From: BRIT
Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2018 23:19:46 +0100
To: YANK

He does in that "oh no I should not like this" way ;)

Subject: Re: Because, if I read your clues right, this kind of man appeals to you
From: YANK
Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2018 15:26:19 -0700
To: BRIT

There's more where that came from.

ook ook.

Subject: I have submitted my passport renewal
From: YANK
Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2018 15:51:18 -0700
To: BRIT

Poppa,

My passport will be renewed in couple weeks. Please think about what dates would be best for me to come for [Redacted] Leather Weekend.

Fares attached. Please remember I will land in [Redacted] the day *after* my departure date. And I do not have to stay with you the entire date range if you have obligations. I can suck off construction workers to pay for Air B&B.

ook ook,

YOUR BIG CHUG (I mean LUG)

[Attachment redacted]

Subject: Stretchy briefs
From: YANK
Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2018 15:59:01 -0700
To: BRIT

Poppa,

Remember those black-and-white striped stretchy briefs you wore? They're on sale for $19.99. Please looks at the color and pattern options and I'd like to get you one, you big sexy mind controlling mook you.

I'm thinking maybe basic black (6) or bamboo (13). Strangely, I find the white stars on blue (16) appealing too.

http://www.prevailsport.com/american.html

ook ook, BIG LUG

Subject: Re: I have submitted my passport renewal
From: BRIT
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2018 00:04:03 +0100
To: YANK

Tuesday to Monday should be fine - cheapest flight and I'll take Wednesday-Friday off, be able to work on Monday after dropping you at the airport.

Gives me some motivation to do more with this house! Hopefully get a double bed in by then ... a city centre hotel on the weekend would make things far easier, but obviously more expensive.

Subject: Re: Stretchy briefs
From: BRIT
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2018 00:06:58 +0100
To: YANK

If you're OK with it, sure! The bamboo 13 seems fun - I have nothing like them ðŸ™‚

Subject: Re: I have submitted my passport renewal
From: YANK
Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2018 16:38:18 -0700
To: BRIT

Poppa,

As long as I can sleep curled up on your big chest and feel you stroking me with your hypnotic touch, I don't give a fuck what we sleep on.

ook ook.

Subject: Re: Stretchy briefs
From: YANK
Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2018 16:39:47 -0700
To: BRIT

Yeah, I have the bamboo in the Powerlifter Squarecut, a minimal brief-like squarecut with a bulge pouch. I think the pattern is manly.

ook ook.

Subject: Getting ready for Gear Night
From: YANK
Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2018 19:22:06 -0700
To: BRIT

Poppa,

Getting ready for Gear Night. I'm pumping my cock up as big as I made it for you. I'll be wearing lace-up motorcycle boots, the black brief cock harness I wore for you but with the lace-up pouch showing plenty of meat through the laces, and my favorite too-small leather waistcoat. Silver ring necklace and bodybuilder figure necklace. All my silver biker rings.

Have bail money ready.

ook ook,

BIG LUG

Subject: The 5 questions
From: YANK
Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2018 19:28:14 -0700
To: BRIT

http://toscapetheserpentstongue.blogspot.com/2012/07/five-fundamental-questions-from-babylon .html

Added to my page of quotes.

ook ook.

Subject: Re: Getting ready for Gear Night
From: BRIT
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2018 07:01:41 +0100
To: YANK

I wanted to see! So here's my somewhat tamer look yesterday ...

[Attachment redacted]

Subject: Re: Getting ready for Gear Night
From: YANK
Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2018 00:26:03 -0700
To: BRIT

I'd do you. Again and again and again.

ook ook.

Subject: $1600 in fake steroids into the dumpster
From: YANK
Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2018 16:25:37 -0700
To: BRIT

Brit,

I just threw $1600 (£1230) worth of fake steroids into the rubbish bin. Took me 2 years and $155 worth of tests to get the nerve to do that.

My taste test and the RoidTest kits indicated the stuff was most likely cottonseed oil with benzyl alcohol as a preservative. The "Sustanon" might have contained a very small amount of testosterone but I already have a prescription for that.

I am not happy. I could have hired a roided muscle escort 5 times with that money. Two of those times could have been for us, once for you and me to enjoy his muscles and a nother time for you to hypnotize him and me.

I mixed a 20 dose batch of HCG (human chorionic gonadotropin) and took a jab. It will restore my testicle size and make me produce even more testosterone.

Next paycheck I'll order the anabolic peptides sermorelin acetate and GHRP-6, both are growth hormone stimulators.

Next free evening I'll mix and sterilize a 1 litre batch of synthol. That should give my pecs, arms, and shoulders some welcome extra size.

ook ook,

BIG LUG

Subject: Alternate career paths?
From: YANK
Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2018 19:19:54 -0700
To: BRIT

Brit,

I want to get out of the tech field. That presents a couple of hurdles. Few jobs pay that much, and it's *very* hard to get considered for any job except one that's the same as my prior job.

My preferences:

* A position where I have authority instead of just responsibility. * A position where I can be self-reliant, such as self-employment or working with a small group of other people who want to feel self-reliant. * Something that doesn't involve intellectual pissing contests, perhaps something literal like manufacturing. *A role where that doesn't interfere with my primary goal of getting HUGE.

I value your insight.

--BIG LUG

[8/5/2018 9:20:31 AM]

BRIT: And back

YANK: Woof.
*** Call from BRIT ***

*** Call ended, duration 1:14:17 ***

YANK: Good night, Poppa. Sleep deeply and dream of Gruntor as a fully grown silverback Daddy gorilla. He still wants your cock in his mouth, MUCH more than when he was an adolescent.

BRIT: H
I will have to pump it up to match him getting bigger ??

BRIT: An alternative to the [Redacted] leather event is the USA m4m hypnocon on the same weekend http://www.hypnocon.com/ in St Louis

BRIT: There are reasons for and against each event. We get to meet up at either. This would likely be cheaper for you, but given the distance I don't know how much by.

YANK: Airfare to St Louis would be less than half the fare to [Redacted].

YANK: Pro: A hypnocon would be fun for us both. I could work with other hypnotists in person, which I prefer to Skype. I've never been to St. Louis and I could see if it's someplace I'd like to live after I leave Las Vegas. And the expenses for a long weekend con would be lower and more predictable.

YANK: Con: The hypnocon is pretty short and self-contained, there wouldn't be much time to explore the city. And I think your hypnosis knowledge and talents are pretty advanced so you'd have fun plying your skills but wouldn't learn much.

YANK: On to [Redacted]...

YANK: PRO: You have recently embraced leather and kink. The Leather Weekend would be a venue for you to explore those passions further. Also, kike you are mentoring me to get the most out of hypnosis, I can mentor you for leather, D/s, BDSM, kink, and fetishes. I would like to connect more deeply with you in those grounds. I haven't been out of the country in 5 years and I miss international travel. I want to see where you live and how you live.

YANK: CON: We'd both be away from work longer if I came to [Redacted]. It would be a bit more expensive than St. Louis. Leather events drawing a large international crowd can be vexing and exhausting.

YANK: Finally, I'm still holding onto the idea of living with you. You've ruled out the USA for yourself, but all you've said about [Redacted] is that it would be impractical and rife with legal and bureaucratic obstacles for me to move to the UK.

YANK: I want to live with you. I want to share our lives. I want to experience your personal evolution first hand and I want to assist you in any way I can. I want you to help me with my personal evolution. I want to become my best self with you. You are an extremely worthwhile man and I want you.

BRIT: Then come here you big lug ??

YANK: Will do, Poppa.

YANK: I must get ready to face my workday. More later.

YANK: Thank you for your email about careers. Sports hypnosis as an adjunct to bodybuilding training would be a very good idea.

YANK: Time for breakfast. Bye for now, Poppa.

BRIT: Don't let them find out you're really a gorilla ??

YANK: I have a human skin suit that usually fools them.

YANK: And I'm not a gorilla, I'm YOUR gorilla.

BRIT: The best gorilla ??

YANK: ook ook!

Subject: The gut punching muscle hulk is still out there
From: YANK
Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2018 19:22:24 -0700
To: BRIT

http://bigmuscle.com/profile.phtml?uid=167221&me=big_muscle.phtml

Bodybuilder seeks admirers and men into spending time with a nice, handsome, vascular stud.

Subject: Re: Alternate career paths?
From: BRIT
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2018 05:39:59 +0100
To: YANK

I was thinking about this yesterday, as my job has enabled me to fly to the states regularly. I have never chased wealth for its own sake or to show it off, but money is still pretty handy to have.

One of the things that makes me like the idea of hypnotherapy is that it would be a self employed business with me picking my own hours. What would the licence cost you there? You might find that as with your idea of training older guys, you standing out from the crowd could be an advantage for things like sport hypnosis. The set up costs are small - just need a single room to start with.

It's also a thing that could be combined with your idea of being a personal trainer, again to give you an angle and an advantage.

I started listening to the Paul Clinton mp3s last night, and I think you could do that sort of thing.

As ever, there are setup costs for the training. "Wiseguy" (Mark Wiseman) who wrote the popular erotic hypnosis book "Mindplay" runs a course each year which is certified by American hypnosis bodies and aimed at the erotic crowd - it's legitimate hypnosis, just knowing who the audience is.

I've been vaguely thinking of it myself. It's online, and the UK has no official hypnosis qualifications for practice.

Hypnosis obsessed Brit

Subject: Re: The gut punching muscle hulk is still out there
From: BRIT
Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2018 06:52:42 +0100
To: YANK

I remember blowing plenty of loads to him on a muscle bears site years and years ago.

Subject: Re: Alternate career paths?
From: YANK
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2018 09:17:45 -0700
To: BRIT

Brit,

How about I open up a men-only gym with an office inside for your hypnosis practice?

Mark Wiseman's course would be a very good idea, you love learning.

ook ook.

Subject: Re: Alternate career paths?
From: BRIT
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2018 17:49:06 +0100
To: YANK

It could work. I'd have to finish the house to get it ready to be sold before I considered a career change though! Sanding walls tonight ...

Subject: A desperate need to be foolish
From: YANK
Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2018 17:59:47 -0700
To: BRIT

Doctor: They consider your memorial fund most unorthodox, Mrs. Savage.

Mrs. Savage: That's absurd. There are plenty of charities for foolish people in desperate need, and none for people with a desperate need to be foolish.

Doctor: What brought you to that conclusion?

Mrs. Savage: My own life. No matter what we have, we never forget the foolish things we never got.

Doctor: That's quite possible.

From "The Curious Savage" by John Patrick

--Yank

Subject: Biker rings for your leatherman self?
From: YANK
Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2018 18:23:15 -0700
To: BRIT

Brit,

You're a power DOM leatherman. Do you own any biker rings? Would you *like* any biker rings? If so, what size do you wear? British sizes are inscrutable to yanks, for example I wear an 11-1/2 which is L^2*4/5 to you. But I can find conversions.

I've been trying to find a good GRUNTOR ring so I'm looking around ring shops.

ook ook,

YOUR BIG LUG

Subject: Pretty close to how I see GRUNTOR
From: YANK
Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2018 18:59:23 -0700
To: BRIT

Brit,

https://www.etsy.com/listing/591290370/silverback-male-gorilla-huge-monkey-big

This is close to my impression of GRUNTOR as a full grown silverback. The metal is modern pewter which would be acceptable but I prefer sterling silver.

https://www.etsy.com/listing/526341239/gorilla-ring-vvilk

This one is artistically better but costs more than I'd like.

Your opinion, please?

ook ook,

BIG LUG

Subject: Re: Pretty close to how I see GRUNTOR
From: BRIT
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2018 05:25:35 +0100
To: YANK

Is the ring for just you or also others? If just for you, then only you know which you are happy with. For others, the first more literal one will set their mind with the association with you as the huge silverback.

Subject: Re: Biker rings for your leatherman self?
From: BRIT
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2018 05:33:42 +0100
To: YANK

I have no idea whatsoever about ring sizes. Do I go to a jewellers to find out?

Subject: Re: Pretty close to how I see GRUNTOR
From: YANK
Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2018 21:39:39 -0700
To: BRIT

Poppa,

Agreed. I have decided on the first. It's right for me and it send the right signal.

ook ook.

[8/7/2018 9:43:08 PM]

BRIT: This getting back to gym phase aches so interestingly. Very aware of my biceps right now. Also really saw how much they had lost - which is kind of nice, knowing I'll gain more than that again ??

YANK: Grow, Poppa. Grow for yourself and share your power with me.

BRIT: It's not even that much. But noticing the difference is a nice bit of awareness.

YANK: I love that ache. Like when I crouch down to pick up something and feel my glutes and hams twinge as I stand up.

YANK: I was hoping to do Kegel exercises tonight but took longer than expected at the laundromat.

BRIT: If it involved hanging around waiting, that's actually a great time to do them.

YANK: True, and there were Mexican men, which is motivation.

BRIT: Did you isolate the right muscle, find where it is and how to activate it?

YANK: Haven't even started yet.

BRIT: OK. Once you know it, I have a suggestion for exercising it ??

YANK: OK. I can do the squeeze-the-last-drop-of-cum-out flex so I'm on the right path. What's your suggestion? Watch TV wrestling while exercising?

BRIT: A Suggestion

YANK: Ah. THAT kind of suggestion. I look forward to it. You made my cock hard when you said "The more control you have the more control I have."

BRIT: Indeed. And I will make your cock hard plenty of times ...

YANK: Already doing it, Poppa.

BRIT: Are you off to sleep?

YANK: As much and as often as you want.

YANK: Sleep in a few minutes. Loading the coffee maker, tucking the cats in.

BRIT: I would like to do more quick sessions with you to reinforce what we have. Just you going down and up, nothing long. Just to keep and strengthen your going under with the hand on the shoulder.

YANK: OK

BRIT: May be an idea for last thing before you get into bed. After everything else is fine for the night.

YANK: I like that.

BRIT: It's the closest I get to hugging you to sleep.

YANK: For the time being, that's true.

YANK: Let me piss and I'll be right back. Video?

BRIT: Get everything done. And yes, video.

YANK: Ready.

*** Call to BRIT ***
*** Call ended, duration 13:12 ***

YANK: Good night, Poppa. Sleep well, be at peace, and GROW.

BRIT: I will, thank you.

BRIT: You gave me things to chew over. I will let the subconscious do it tonight.

YANK: OK, so long as you also subconsciously chew on ME. If I see teethmarks later today I'll know they're yours.

BRIT: I'm groping you already ??

BRIT: Keep those Kegels going!

YANK: Starting Kegels tonight. Need to go over the training materials to be sure I'm flexing the right muscles.

YANK: Your encouragement tells me this will have some enjoyable benefits to your hypnotic control of my body. (xd)

BRIT: I've never done orgasm on command before, but would like to with you. This will help cover the physical build up.

BRIT: I woke up horny just now. It has been a while since that happened. Well, on my own. I spent my visit holding back, letting you go about your life! Feeding the cats before feeding my urges ...

BRIT: I woke up hungry too. I have had gym five days in a row. Three were just cardio, but given the aching from the two weight days, I'm happy that I'm getting myself back into it. The aching is the usual, "hey, it's been a while!" multi day ache, not the "good workout!" shorter one.

BRIT: I've been remodelling my head. Bicep curls on a bench in front of a mirror might not be anything special to most, but I avoided it a long while as it wasn't my idea of me before. I did start doing them a bit the last year, but making a point of doing them the other day was saying "I'm building these" to the world.

BRIT: Also taken protein shakes at work after gym. Again, an actual meal might be handy, but it's an easy way to announce to co-workers that I'm training now, this is what I'm doing.

Subject: Re: Biker rings for your leatherman self?
From: YANK
Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2018 21:43:23 -0700
To: BRIT

Poppa,

Yes, a jeweler or even the jewelry counter at a department store should have ring sizers. They're a set of rings you try on to find the size that fits you. Start BIG and work down, you don't want to start by getting stuck. Remember the cock ring fiasco? Of course you do.

Tell me your size (American if it's available) and I'd like to get you a bad-ass biker ring.

ook ook,

BIG LUG

[8/21/2018 11:36:03 AM]

BRIT: Amusingly, that email still brings up the Brick Skype account.

YANK: Yeah, the Gmail address name is Brick Braggadocio, the original gorilla from Gorilla Gay Bar in Albuquerque. I originally entered that for the Skype account then changed the name to GRUNTOR GORILLA. Who between caching and changes of mind, who knows?

BRIT: It actually shows two accounts.

YANK: Odd, when I search on my email address whether logged in as Brick 89102 or GRUNTOR GORILLA, I get no search results at all.

YANK: Well, you found me, no bloodhounds required.

BRIT: But they're so cute!

BRIT: Can't sleep again ??

YANK: I'll send yu melatonin ASAP. I'm surprised your Zoloft hasn't helped that.

BRIT: Only been a week.

YANK: Still, most people get groggy for the first week or two and then less so.

YANK: Trazodone, another SSRI, really wipes yo out so it's taken at bed time.

YANK: I don't know if I sent you the Orders in Bulk Tumblr. Lots of muscle Daddies but lately far too many furries.

YANK: https://ordersinbulk.tumblr.com/

YANK: Home from the gym. 14 sets chest, 14 sets arms, 3 sets abs. I'm BIG.

BRIT: Huge

YANK: Yes. And I shall grow more HUGE for you.

YANK: Video?

YANK: Indicate your consent by starting the call.

YANK: Overcome your fear, my man. Be with me.

YANK: Good night.

BRIT: Sleep well big gorilla.

BRIT: We'll see how I go

YANK: ook ook.

Subject: https://www.twitter.com/Partisangirl/status/989445091596034055
From: BRIT
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2018 13:26:21 +0100
To: YANK

Subject: Re: https://www.twitter.com/Partisangirl/status/989445091596034055
From: YANK
Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2018 06:09:38 -0700
To: BRIT

Poppa,

That's wonderful! America's perspective of "If you fail it's your own damn fault" looks so harsh when you see the people of a war-torn country remembering to care for the peripheral victims of their strife.

--BIG LUG

Subject: Alpha Male Undies
From: YANK
Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2018 06:24:47 -0700
To: BRIT

http://www.alphamaleundies.com/

Poppa,

Alpha Male Undies is a UK web store with a good collection of stretchy gear. I'm particularly fond of their "extreme running shorts" which emulate the 1980's ultra-revealing International Male Onionskins shorts.

Get yourself something that says power DOM.

--BIG LUG

Subject: I said it once before but it bears repeating
From: YANK
Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2018 07:13:38 -0700
To: BRIT

Brit,

Actually, I don't know if I said it before, but we both know I talk so much it's highly likely I'm repeating myself now.

Did I ever share my "ideal man" notes with you? I reviewed it again this morning and it's extremely arousing to see how many points you meet.

In my notes I say:

I believe two men working together can accomplish more as a team than two men working solo. I want to come home to a man who understands that adult life often requires a lot of metaphorical heavy lifting and he's willing to share the load to lighten the burden.

To that end...

Live with me and for a year I will fully support you while you pursue your career as a hypnotist. I can bear to stay in tech if it's for a good cause like this.

Let me live with you for a year while you fully support me and I will grow MASSIVE muscle, enlarge my cock to unnerving size, and submit to any and all hypnotic training you want for me. I will train you in the gym, cook muscle food for you, help you evolve. I will deny you no pleasure.

Part-time work would probably be a good idea in the mix. The point is that working as a team we can accomplish more than we can working solo.

Think about it, Poppa. Imagine having a safety net while you change your life to better suit who you have evolved into.

ook ook,

YOUR BIG LUG

Subject: Laws to know if you want to practice hypnotherapy here
From: YANK
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2018 10:14:00 -0700
To: BRIT

http://www.hypnotherapistsunion.org/statelaws

Summary of State Laws Regarding Hypnosis

The majority of the United States exert little or no direct regulation over the practice of Hypnosis or Hypnotherapy, although other laws generally affecting the operation of any business will usually apply (e.g. truth in advertising, unfair business practices, etc.).

Colorado, Connecticut, and Washington are states that require mandatory licensure or registration.

California, Florida, Illinois, New Jersey, Texas and Utah do not have mandatory registration, but do lay out specific regulations for the practice of hypnotism and guidelines for licensure exemption.

(details in article)

--BIG LUG

Subject: I think you need this pendant
From: YANK
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2018 10:54:34 -0700
To: BRIT

http://sports-jewelry.com/product/bear-pendant-darkened-gym-gifts/

Yes. A musclebear bending the bar.

I'm pretty sure I can get it for substantially less at AliExpress or possibly Amazon. $63 for stainless steel?!? Blow me.

ook ook.

Subject: Re: I think you need this pendant
From: BRIT
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2018 19:14:13 +0100
To: YANK

I do like it. Don't feel I deserve it yet though.

Subject: Re: I think you need this pendant
From: YANK
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2018 11:27:21 -0700
To: BRIT

It's important to carry a totem of your goals. You deserve to ACHIEVE that.

ook ook.

Subject: Re: I think you need this pendant
From: YANK
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2018 12:08:17 -0700
To: BRIT

Bright silver color or antiqued color?

ook ook.

Subject: More about ring sizes
From: YANK
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2018 13:05:37 -0700
To: BRIT

Poppa,

When you get your fingers sized for rings, please get the sizes of *all* your fingers. You may enjoy occasionally wearing a fistfull of rings when you leather up. And great for fascination too.

UK ring sizes are letters. My middle finger ring size would be Y for example.

ook ook,

BIG LUG (jeweler to the stars)

Subject: Animated GIF: Leather Daddy ejaculating
From: YANK
Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2018 18:52:30 -0700
To: BRIT

https://78.media.tumblr.com/cbe7c8b376b591ef8f3c5a101ac6d8e7/tumblr_p853qhuKRM1uw24 5to1_400.gif

from the Tumblr https://muscles-cigars-and-leather.tumblr.com/

ook ook.

Subject: What do you respond best to hypnotically?
From: YANK
Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2018 06:31:41 -0700
To: BRIT

Brit,

I'd like us to spend some time soon discussing how I can most effectively hypnotize you.

What kinds of online inductions work well for you? What style of deepeners get you deepest? Is there a tone you respond strongly to, like I respond to aggressive man-handling and nurturing power dominance? Anything else useful, for example, your version of how anchor/trigger objects (Brick's hat) work for me?

I also need to practice my video presence. I've only ever hypnotized guys in person. If you have any advice for owning the moment on video, I'd appreciate it.

ook ook,

BIG LUG

Subject: Hypnosis training - Your perspective is appreciated
From: YANK
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2018 09:27:13 -0700
To: BRIT

https://hypnosistrainingacademy.com/break-down-resistance-during-hypnosis/

How To Seamlessly Break Down Someone's Resistance During Hypnosis With The Non-Awareness Set

Subject: I want you to wear gym clothes like this, Poppa
From: YANK
Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2018 17:41:52 -0700
To: BRIT

And show off like this too.

https://78.media.tumblr.com/5c67d28cf28bb5c847a92d0cbaf80811/tumblr_p525jk144c1wltun1o 1_400.gif

ook ook.

Subject: A good look for you
From: YANK
Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2018 18:55:49 -0700
To: BRIT

You would wear this massiveness well, Poppa.

ook ook.

Subject: Re: I want you to wear gym clothes like this, Poppa
From: BRIT
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2018 04:42:54 +0100
To: YANK

I'll need more exercise with the pump for that look :p

Subject: Re: Hypnosis training - Your perspective is appreciated
From: BRIT
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2018 05:19:50 +0100
To: YANK

The real money in hypnotism is training hypnotists. There are a few big names that have made a huge success of that. Hypnosis Training Academy is based around one guy, Igor Leledochowski who does seem to be great. I have subscribed to his YouTube channel, and in fact those cards I ordered came from a link there. I think there is a lot of good content on there being given away for free. It's not all they train, but what there is is useful. Mike Mandel is another with a YouTube channel with tons of content.

It is interesting to go through the process of ordering the cards ... https://hypnosistrainingacademy.com/hypnotic-language-shortcut-system/?utm_campaign=YT-d esc-box&utm_medium=YT-to-TW&utm_source=YT&utm_content=YT-Video-O-yayCqlBWA &utm_term=ct and see the ridiculously hard sell they give. I'm not so impressed.

The non awareness set he describes is (as he says) based on Erickson's stuff. I use it sometimes with people who are learning to trance, as it's a good way to get them to believe in what is happening, and make the trance happen. I'd say the thing we did (yesterday?) with you observing and responding to the physicality of your body as you breathed was in the same area.

One thing that is interesting - as you go through this stuff and soak it up, you're going to end up with more consciously available knowledge about hypnotism than me ðŸ™‚ without your amazing indexing, I just surround myself in this so things become unconscious, automatic. You'll probably end up a better teacher, and eventually hypnotist too ...

We have established you can and will trance, and that is getting easier and better. It's now depth and dissociation to work on. But the arm freeze - you have experienced your conscious hearing what I say and your subconscious acting on the same thing. So there's a waking dissociation. You know you can do it, it's just practice from here.

Brit

Subject: Re: What do you respond best to hypnotically?
From: BRIT
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2018 05:43:26 +0100
To: YANK

I don't think I do much for video presence particularly. Standard stuff like trying to keep what they see and hear to what they want their hypnotist to be. So no cat anuses appearing during would be best :)

For what works on me? Blink's Basic Induction is the single best thing but I know nobody who can do that level of word play, including myself.

I think the rapport is the main thing, not any particular technique.

One of the few files I black out to is https://hypnosisforguys.com/m/sounds/view/Induction-Be-a-Good-Boy-for-Sleepycub . If you went by the book, it should not work on me. He says some stuff at the beginning about sitting in a chair when I'm always lying down. He uses the term "boy". It gets very authoritarian, which I will tell you is a turn off for me. And yet ... the file works on me. Most likely because I know, trust, like and respect the creator. It's technically got some great aspects too, the way he uses hypnotic language, the shift in his character over the course of it ...

You were able to shift my state very effectively when you decided to. You just need the confidence of seeing me in trance to allow yourself to do what you will know will work for me.

To give you the confidence, here are some facts to utilise. - I am strongest kinaesthetically. If I'm going down a staircase, have me feel my weight coming down on each foot for each step, feel the bannister under my hand. When in a boat on a river, the sway of it, the sense of the sun etc are all good. Icannot visualise things in my imagination. I don't know how good my audio sense is - I can create people's voices in my head e.g. often when reading emails I will hear you. - I have been surprised by how much I enjoy submission these last few months. I think this is because I have met people I respected enough to submit to. It is not a need to submit to anyone, it is the dynamic I have with them. We are the same or similar in this I think. - I can trance easily enough, the issue is depth and post hypnotic suggestions. I would just freezing all or parts of my body to start with, as that is the most effective suggestion on me. I don't like being frozen; but I far more love feeling the suggestion in there working. - Be the hypnotist. When we do this, you will explore my strengths and weaknesses. Some things may not work so well - that's just characterising me, not a failure. When things do work well - you created the situation that allowed it to. Accept it, internalise it, build on it. The trance, the rapport, the session has an energy. Don't let it dissipate. When I freeze for you, then go to the next thing, push it further.

I'm going to do a thing at the weekend where I fractionate you over one of our long calls. You will see how things build and build.

Someone who is not poppa right now ;)

Subject: Re: What do you respond best to hypnotically?
From: YANK
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2018 06:33:43 -0700
To: BRIT

Not Poppa,

You can bottom for me and I can bottom for your exactly because of the respect you describe. We have a genuine power exchange. You make me feel so aroused and happy when your accept my power and show me how adept you are at using it like a boss. You make me feel proud when you give me your power and you look at me with wide eyes like I'm the hypermasculine brute I try to see in the mirror. It's damn special.

I will use you, Brit. I will frighten you and arouse you and challenge you and I will bring you the passionate satisfaction you felt when you sucked my pumped-up cocknormous tool into your mouth. You will use me, Brit. You will excite me and exhaust me and drain my strength, my will, and my cum every time you bend my mind in a new masterful way or show me another aspect of your ever-growing power.

I can deny you no pleasure.

ook ook,

Your BIG LUG, your gorilla, your friend

Subject: Kinetic piston ring. Fuck yeah.
From: YANK
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2018 08:50:43 -0700
To: BRIT

https://www.etsy.com/listing/618348059/engine-working-piston-ring-mechanics

If a moving, pumping piston ring isn't the perfect fascination device for erotic hypnosis I don't know what is.

ook oo.

BIG LUG

Subject: Re: Kinetic piston ring. Fuck yeah.
From: BRIT
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2018 16:58:37 +0100
To: YANK

That ... is very nice. Not cheap though. Don't get carried away with this stuff, growing is not cheap!

Subject: Re: Kinetic piston ring. Fuck yeah.
From: YANK
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2018 09:02:04 -0700
To: BRIT

Poppa,

The gold and silver version is worth the price. But that price is steep enough that I'll wait until I sell some used posing trunks on eBay.

ook ook.

Subject: Re: Kinetic piston ring. Fuck yeah.
From: YANK
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2018 09:14:41 -0700
To: BRIT

Poppa,

This week's budgeted purchase: HCG (human chorionic gonadotropin) to grow my nuts and make more testosterone.

Next week's budgeted purchase: Sermorelin and GHRP-6, two injectable peptides that stimulate growth hormone production. And maybe Melanotan-2, a peptide that stimulates a deep bodybuilder tan (if I dye my beard and get brown contact lenses I can pass as Mexican).

ook ook.

Subject: Thank you, Wayback Machine!
From: YANK
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2018 16:10:04 -0700
To: BRIT

https://web.archive.org/web/20121107190211/http://www.muscletech.com/resources/tools/calcul ators/caloric.shtml

The Internet Archive has come through again. Muscletech used to have a great calorie calculator but took it down for no clear reason. It's still available in Archive.org's cache.

Uses Flash.

ook ook,

GROWING GRUNTOR

Subject: Guy plays with his little bodybuilder cock
From: YANK
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2018 17:32:37 -0700
To: BRIT

Little body builder cock. Well, it starts out that way...

https://vtt.tumblr.com/tumblr_p2dv5e4yFr1wsv81y_480.mp4

ook ook.

Subject: I'm going out for a beer and a cigar
From: YANK
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2018 20:12:28 -0700
To: BRIT

Poppa,

I need to unwind so I'm going to Funhog Ranch for a drink and a little cigar. I've been trying to get a picture for you to jack off to. I'm wearing a super-deep scoop cut-out gym T-shirt with 3 silver chains. My chest looks good for a silverback.

Talk to you either your morning or your afternoon.

ook ook,

YOUR BIG LUG

Subject: On foolishness
From: YANK
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2018 11:23:38 -0700
To: BRIT

Doctor: They consider your memorial fund most unorthodox, Mrs. Savage.

Mrs. Savage: That's absurd. There are plenty of charities for foolish people in desperate need, and none for people with a desperate need to be foolish.

Doctor: What brought you to that conclusion?

Mrs. Savage: My own life. No matter what we have, we never forget the foolish things we never got.

Doctor: That's quite possible.

(From the stage play 'The Curious Savage' by John Patrick)

Subject: I think pizza would be a good look for me
From: YANK
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2018 11:35:19 -0700
To: BRIT

Poppa,

I was surprised by how much this guy's head reminds me of my own.

ook ook.

Subject: Pics of me
From: BRIT
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2018 19:39:48 +0100
To: YANK

Some ones I like:

- The kite pic is of the first and only time I have flown a kite - it captures joy, which is a beautiful feeling. I have been asked "are you very short and pulling a big horse" about it.

- The stairs pic is at a point where I was training and reducing calories. My diet at the time was largely cottage cheese and oven-ready pizzas. The very trimmed, precise look is frustrating to me; I know it looks good but I am both too lazy to maintain it and also don't want to be a person who maintains a look needing that much maintenance :D

- The topless pic is one I send to men who want nudes; it's about as much as they get. The smile is a nice one. I keep thinking the upper chest looks non-existent though!

- The towel one was sent when I met you at NEEHU. The light flatters, but I felt I was relatively thick.

- The one in shorts is from last year, one of the few times I felt beefy. My shoulders are my favourite bit.

- The Liverpool one with the grey top and orange jeans, I just felt thick again.

Hmm, lots of ones of me and my body. I don't really have photos of things I go to etc. so that affects the sample.

Brit

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Subject: Re: Pics of me
From: YANK
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2018 11:49:03 -0700
To: BRIT

Brit,

Very nice all around, thank you. And I appreciate your comments on them. I wouldn't be attracted to you if you were obsessed about maintaining a specific "look". Bodybuilding is about experimenting and learning from it. And so is confidence.

I would only show the general-audience-appropriate photos to other people.

ook ook,

YOUR BIG LUG

Subject: Don't forget your progress photos
From: YANK
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2018 12:19:13 -0700
To: BRIT

Poppa,

Please remember to take progress photos of your personal evolution. You will appreciate comparing the self that you see to the self the world sees.

ook ook,

YOUR BIG LUG

Subject: Ring sizes, please
From: YANK
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2018 12:44:31 -0700
To: BRIT

Finger rings AND cock rings.

'Nuf said.

ook ook.

Subject: Couldn't remember if I sent these before: Mexican strongmen
From: YANK
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2018 17:24:52 -0700
To: BRIT

Brit,

I can't remember if I sent these photos to you already (low quality cell phone snaps of the TV screen).

Mexican TV has a strongman show where 4 guys competed every week to see who survives to the end of the series.

The guys were buried in the sand up to their heads and they had to try to struggle their way out.

Made my cock harder than granite.

ook ook,

BIG LUG

That was actually a setup for hypnotising the Brit. The next day we had a video Skype session in which I brought him to a sand floor training arena and shoved him down up to his head like the Mexican strongmen. I gave the Brit a post-hypnotic trigger to immobilize him that way. We were able to hypnotize each other, something I was worried I would not be able to do for him.

Subject: Cum overload
From: YANK
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2018 21:25:59 -0700
To: BRIT

The size of my cock had become too much. At my gym the manager told me my bulge was way too intimidating and he got complaints from coward members. He said no more posing trunks, I'd have to get shorts. Baggy ones.

But the insane amounts of cum was what really pissed me off. Today at the gym while doing barbell curls my cock started to throb then it belched out a week's worth of cum while I struggled helplessly to fight it. Gobs and gobs of spunk oozed out of my trunks, ran down my leg, and dripped on the floor. I had reached my limit.

I called the hypnotist who did this to me.

"Hello, Brute, good to hear from you," he said.

"Save it," I said, "This is too much. Undo whatever you did to me."

The hypnotist laughed a little. "You said you WANTED a big cock. You said you WANTED your nuts overflowing with cum."

I was getting angry. "Enough is enough! You made my cock TOO big! And all the cum I'm making, it's TOO much! it's pouring out of me, it's out of control!"

The hypnotist said, "You're getting angry, Brute. Time for you to CALM DOWN."

Suddenly I felt very calm. My mind became perfectly clear. I couldn't remember what I was angry about.

"You feel good now, don't you Brute. So relaxed. Your mind is perfectly clear now and it feels so good. All you want to do is stay relaxed like this and listen to my wisdom."

He was right. I did.

"You want your cock to grow huge and always keep growing. You want your nuts to make cum, more and more cum, so much cum you can't keep it in you. Tell me I'm right and I know what you want."

"You're right, that's what I want." It felt so good to tell him.

"Your mind controls your body, Brute. Your mind makes your body grow, your mind controls everything your body does. Your cock is always growing. Every minute it grows bigger. Every hour it grows bigger. Every day it grows bigger. Your cock keeps growing and growing, bigger and bigger, always growing. Nothing can stop your cock growing. Your nuts keep making cum, so much cum, so much cum you can't keep it in you. More cum every minute. More cum every hour. More cum every day. When your nuts get too full they automatically dump your cum. It's a reflex, it happens automatically without you thinking about it. And then your nuts make still more cum, so much cum you can't keep it in you. Nothing can stop your nuts making cum. Do you understand?"

"Yes," I said. I understood it perfectly. My cock was always growing. My nuts were always making cum, so much cum I can't keep it in me. Knowing it made me feel so good.

"Good," said the hypnotist. "Everything I tell you becomes reality. When I count to three you hang up the phone and the memory of calling me drifts away. 1. 2. 3."

I hung up. Why was I holding my phone?

It didn't matter. My cock was huge. My nuts were full of cum. It was what I wanted. I groaned as my body started to shake and my cock started to throb, then it belched out gob after gob of cum, more and more cum, so much cum I couldn't keep it in me.

[8/12/2018 10:23:49 AM]

YANK: ook ook.

BRIT: And beefed up

BRIT: Sorry for the deal

YANK: No problem.

BRIT: Still picking it out of my teeth :)

YANK: Floss! That way you can flick the shreds at people you don't like.

YANK: Video?

*** Call from BRIT ***
*** Call ended, duration 01:11 ***
*** Call from BRIT ***
*** Call ended, duration 00:23 ***
*** Call from BRIT ***

YANK: Do you need me to get you a netbook or something simple and new?

*** Call ended, duration 00:44 ***

BRIT: I think I remember why I started using my phone so much ...

YANK: Indeed.

BRIT: Will kill and restart Skype

YANK: OK. I will too.

*** Call from BRIT ***
*** Call ended, duration 02:01 ***
*** Call from BRIT ***
*** Call ended, duration 00:05 ***
*** Call to BRIT, no answer.
Send video message ***
*** Call from BRIT ***
*** Call ended, duration 01:40 ***
*** Call from BRIT ***
*** Call ended, duration 1:09:04 ***

BRIT: I want to guzzle some of your hot cum.

YANK: What a coincidence, I want you to force-suck ALL the cum out of me.

YANK: Whenever you want.

YANK: Restrain me, hypnotize me, force me... Whatever it takes.

BRIT: However long it takes me. If I enjoy sucking you off, then you just have to hold off shooting until I'm good and done.

YANK: Yes.

YANK: I can deny you no pleasure.

YANK: Your hypnotic training now must include conditioning me to cum when you want, how you want, entirely under YOUR control, and helpless to control my own cum.

BRIT: It's not even your cum anymore.

YANK: No, it's not.

YANK: You own me, Poppa. You have me by the balls.

YANK: I have felt your POWER.

YANK: My body and mind are YOURS to control as you desire.

YANK: Make me struggle.

YANK: Make me fail.

YANK: You will enjoy knowing I thought I had a chance, thought I could keep my cum.

YANK: You will enjoy conquering me.

BRIT: I'm going to milk you like a bull out to stud and drink your muscle cum.

YANK: Yes.

YANK: You will.

YANK: And if you're in the mood you will show off your POWER to others. You will break me as they watch. You will own my cum despite my fight to keep it.

YANK: But I will never learn my lesson.

YANK: I will always foolishly think I can hold back, keep my cum from you.

YANK: And you will always break me, drain me, leave my nuts empty. Leave me ashamed I was too weak to stop you.

YANK: Feel your power, Poppa.

YANK: Use your power, Poppa.

BRIT: Not weak. Always stronger.

BRIT: It's just, I have you by the balls ??

YANK: I see Poppa is up for the fight.

YANK: Fighting you will make me strong.

YANK: You can challenge other men to make me cum and laugh as they fail.

YANK: Then drain me in an instant just to show your power.

YANK: My Poppa is the strongest.

BRIT: Maybe. Showing off might be fun. But I won't perform for others. Just if I want.

BRIT: What will you feel like when you're all huge and swole and I say a word and make you weak as a kitten?

BRIT: When I remind you you're just meat for me to do with as I please?

YANK: I want to know that feeling.

YANK: I want to be your meat to use as you desire.

YANK: Teach me, Poppa.

BRIT: Freaky roided pumped meat.

BRIT: Beyond maleness.

YANK: Roid addict swole beast who exists for your pleasure.

YANK: Shape me. Change me. Build me into the obscene muscle brute you want. YOUR brute. YOUR roid addict.

YANK: I can deny you no pleasure.

YANK: But only YOU know the pleasure I shall give you.

YANK: Then use me, Poppa.

BRIT: I will

YANK: Thank you, Poppa.

BRIT: Hypno before you sleep

YANK: Yes. Let me piss first. Back in a moment.

YANK: Back.

YANK: Headset on.

YANK: Ready.

*** Call from BRIT ***
*** Call ended, duration 6:23:43 ***

BRIT: I do read your statuses ??

YANK: Good. They're for you.

YANK: Fell asleep easily last night, thank you.

YANK: But nightmares all night long.

YANK: Awoke at 2:14 AM in a fit of anxiety. About us. The miles, the years, the logistics, the preposterousness of all the obstacles and challenges, wanting to share our lives while knowing what an outlandish notion it is.

YANK: Took a while to get my head back to my bed, my cats, my sleep.

YANK: Coffee this morning. My resolve is still strong and my determination is even stronger. I am a warrior.

YANK: We are stronger and more powerful together than solo. And we are so very powerful.

YANK: I have chosen you.

BRIT: Lots to figure out. But everything improves even while we do.

BRIT: Airport sandwiches really are that expensive.

BRIT: Are you adequately rested?

YANK: Yes.

YANK: 2 cups of coffee helped bring me more fully to the conscious realm.

YANK: Packed a bodybuilder lunch. Going to shave in a moment.

YANK: How are you today, Poppa? Invigorated? hopeful?

BRIT: Yes. I felt a bit down about the house jobs needing more time, but now I'm seeing a relatively safe opportunity to learn to work with plaster.

BRIT: I registered at my local doctor this morning, finally.

YANK: I'm going to get you a tight stretchy day-glo yellow T-shirt like construction workers wear, and a pair of knee pads.

YANK: Doctor? What's up? Just getting what we call a "primary care physician"?

BRIT: Yes, I moved so wanted my GP (general practitioner, first point of contact) to be local to my new place.

BRIT: I mentioned I was curious as to if I were depressed, so they asked me back tomorrow.

BRIT: I know I have nothing like what people really suffering do, but I have lately wondered what is normal.

YANK: Please talk to me about your depression work-up. I have a lot of experience in that regard. HUGE difference between dysphoria, malaise, angst, etc. and true depression.

YANK: If you believe you feel the way you do because there's something fundamentally wrong with the world and that happiness is inevitably futile, it's depression.

YANK: If you feel situations and circumstances are suffocating your soul, it's sadness.

YANK: More to it than that but...

YANK: I hope you learn things that are useful to you.

YANK: And I hope the doctor you see has first-hand experience with depression. For so many it's an abstract thing.

BRIT: Seems more like sadness for me then. I clearly don't enjoy many parts of my situation on life.

BRIT: It's nothing huge but it seemed an appropriate time to ask. I won't otherwise.

YANK: Change can be a positive force.

YANK: And you are changing, and happier for it, from what I see.

YANK: I hope I can assist in any way you may need or want.

BRIT: You can and will.

YANK: Thank you, my man.

BRIT: I learned long ago that while we all have issues we have to care for and love ourselves to give and receive that with others.

YANK: Yes.

YANK: "I'm not OK, and you're not OK, but that's OK." -- Dr. Bernie Seagal

YANK: I am grateful that you let yourself be open to me loving you.

BRIT: You are right, we spent two years learning each other. Not obviously or with that intent.

YANK: I didn't expect to fall in love any more than you expected me to.

BRIT: You did ask me to move out with you back then. It was situationally the right time to. But you've seen the difference in me between. It wouldn't have been right then.

YANK: But yeah, the seed was planted when you contacted me on HypnosisForGuys or whatever it was then.

YANK: You had to grow into yourself. I understand.

YANK: I had to go through [Redacted] and [Redacted] to end up embracing my current goals as fiercely as I do.

YANK: And I embrace you so very, very fiercely.

Subject: Re: Couldn't remember if I sent these before: Mexican strongmen
From: BRIT
Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2018 10:40:41 +0100
To: YANK

You had mentioned the show before, but not sent those particular stills.

Subject: Re: Don't forget your progress photos
From: BRIT
Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2018 12:47:54 +0100
To: YANK

I'll take some for "now" but here are some from the last few years.

I have never shared or shown these to anybody. It's one thing to be stripped (mostly), but this is vulnerable by showing my desire to change.

And it's a shame that not a lot happened over 7 years, oh well :/ I'm definitely stronger even if it doesn't show much, a better base for future progress.

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Subject: Re: Don't forget your progress photos
From: YANK
Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2018 08:00:30 -0700
To: BRIT

Poppa,

Some of those are jack-off worthy.

We're both at the beginning of some significant changes and that's always scary. Entering new territory always makes one feel vulnerable and exposed. I am with you, Poppa. Virtually for now, physically soon. And permanently later.

I was at my best in 2011 at age 50. Some of the Navajo's studio photos from that time are attached.

I shall become even bigger.

ook ook,

The Gang (Big Lug, GRUNTOR, Brute, Yank, and whomever else you need or want)

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Subject: Re: Don't forget your progress photos
From: BRIT
Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2018 17:21:12 +0100
To: YANK

You look (even more) amazing in those, thank you.

Subject: Re: Don't forget your progress photos
From: YANK
Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2018 09:25:12 -0700
To: BRIT

Poppa,

Thank you. That was in Albuquerque and I liked who I was there. Not the physical appearance but my peace of mind and feeling of safety.

Of course, the muscle helped too.

I shall grow for us, Poppa. I shall become IMMENSE and you shall use me however you desire. I can deny you no pleasure. And you will please me too. Hell, you already do.

ook ook,

BIG LUG

Subject: Do you have time for hypnosis today?
From: YANK
Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2018 09:38:03 -0700
To: BRIT

Brit,

Do you have time today for hypnosis together?

I'd like to bring you under. Or, if your time is tight, a few minutes for a reinforcement session would be appreciated.

Gym shortly. Back, biceps, and shoulders.

ook ook,

YOUR BIG LUG

Subject: Re: Do you have time for hypnosis today?
From: BRIT
Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2018 17:38:42 +0100
To: YANK

I do, nothing scheduled really. Do you mean now? I'm on Skype

Subject: Soaked
From: YANK
Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2018 12:01:06 -0700
To: BRIT

Brit,

My posing trunks were SOAKED. Major load of cock drool, about an egg white's worth. Had to take them off and wash them. Put on a Lonsdale brief before heading to lunch.

Next time no hand washing my trunks. You'll suck the cock drool out for me.

See you in our arena,

YOUR BRUTE

Subject: Re: Soaked
From: BRIT
Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2018 20:07:29 +0100
To: YANK

I'm not dry myself ;)

And I'm getting to see what you have said you see happening to me. Thank you, in many ways.

Subject: Re: Soaked
From: YANK
Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2018 12:43:53 -0700
To: BRIT

Brit,

We're good for each other. This is one Hell of an adventure. Thank you.

--Yank

Subject: KFC lunch
From: YANK
Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2018 12:47:04 -0700
To: BRIT

Brit,

I just wolfed down a Kentucky Fried Chicken 6 piece meal for two. 3 drumsticks, 3 thighs, 2 biscuits, 2 coleslaw, 2 mashed potatoes.

What can I say. I had a coupon.

And I'm GROWING.

*burp*

ook ook,

BIG LUG

Subject: Your BRUTE owns the runway
From: YANK
Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2018 13:35:57 -0700
To: BRIT

Brit,

Back in Albuquerque I volunteered with a charity fundraising event, "Gears and Glamor". It was sponsored by a local Harley Davidson dealership.

Everyone backstage and in the audience agreed my anger was mesmerizing.

The last photo has my friend Jelly Belly and my former boyfriend the Navajo (not his best pose).

Owning my power,

YOUR BRUTE

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Subject: Re: Your BRUTE owns the runway
From: BRIT
Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2018 21:41:38 +0100
To: YANK

Impressive. You do set out to do stuff. No quiet life.

Subject: Re: Your BRUTE owns the runway
From: YANK
Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2018 13:44:38 -0700
To: BRIT

I do what I can Poppa. I do what I can.

ook ook.

Subject: Re: Your BRUTE owns the runway... AND wrestles
From: YANK
Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2018 13:48:56 -0700
To: BRIT

Here are a couple snaps of me and Corey (the other guy in the Delmas Howe painting photo) rehearsing for an Albuquerque Leather Daddys (sic) event.

oo ook.

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Subject: Re-install Windows on your troublesome notebook?
From: YANK
Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2018 20:25:16 -0700
To: BRIT

Brit,

Your notebook PC could be useful if it actually worked. Perhaps wiping the disk and re-installing Windows would help?

My friend BjÃ¶rn has a full MSDN subscription and can get me CD images for any version of Windows known to mankind. I have a US English Windows 10 Home Edition image and product key I can put on Google Drive if it would be useful.

Your phone propped against the notebook worked well today. I enjoyed putting you under so anything I can do to make that easier I will do.

ook ook,

Your man of many roles, all of which make me extremely happy and proud.

Subject: Re: Re-install Windows on your troublesome notebook?
From: BRIT
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2018 04:37:09 +0100
To: YANK

Unfortunately it's always been a bit odd, and only got worse through repeated dropping. I reinstall Windows every few months as the tiny SSD can't upgrade without external storage anyway, and I wanted to hide the mind control filth from US customs so it's had one around the start of July.

I liked feeling you take me down, very much.

Subject: Re: Re-install Windows on your troublesome notebook?
From: YANK
Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2018 21:20:57 -0700
To: BRIT

Good Lord, what are you doing up this early? GO TO SLEEP POPPA.

I will be here when you awake.

Unless you want to feel me pull you down to the arena again. Or shove you deep and immobilized up to your chin. Admit it, that makes your big cock hard.

ook ook,

YOUR BRUTE

Subject: Re: Re-install Windows on your troublesome notebook?
From: BRIT
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2018 05:24:09 +0100
To: YANK

I think it was a combination of eating late and a washing machine going off at 4am that woke me up.

I need to shop like someone growing and have things ready to eat, always. I have always failed on the diet side of training even though I know it's so important - time after time I hear many say it's the most important aspect.

I got to 30% body fat last year, not ideal. Very much Eric Cartman going beeeeeeefcaaaaaaake!

Subject: Re: Re-install Windows on your troublesome notebook?
From: YANK
Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2018 21:26:22 -0700
To: BRIT

Brit,

Extra points for the Cartman reference.

I will teach you to shop, cook, and eat like a musclehead. I just wolfed down a serving of chicken & rice with a side of yellow squash.

I'm excited about growing. I want you to feel excited too.

ook ook.

[8/13/2018 5:36:43 AM]